Yeah, definitely from a new batch of photos. The first 7200 from Sasha appear in November of last year, and I think these could be as recent as May or even June this year.
This is a nice set, i have to partially agree with charade though that sets tend to be a bit boring, i wish they would put Jenya in more situations or context other than studio environment, some different outfits, a bit of role play, funny situations, a nice landscape, etc. So many ideas you can come with if you have a model like that, but they still do some sets just using a solid color background.
The areola looks a bit different here compared to other sets, but breasts form is nice as usual.
And wow, we are getting near to 1gb sets now, but even when pictures are big in size i can notice they are not really sharp, and that bothers me a little. Theres a lof of soft focusing going on, at least in my eyes. Also there is a bit of noise in the pictures. Compared to some hegre sets for example that are razor sharp this is a bit soft, and i wish that wasnt the case so we can really appreciate Jenya's skin details.
What do you think guys?
Pd. excuse me for my poor english... hope the ideas are still understandable.
The answer is: photoshopped more or less. All of them, Hegre, Metart, Femjoy, etc use professional cameras, lights and studios. The only difference is post production and color/noise correction in photoshop. Personally I would like to see photos as is without noise reduction and blur. "Glamour" editing is ruining natural beauty.
Im sure they all use nice cameras and lenses, and that pictures maybe start sharp, but as you say they ruin them with the "glamour" retouching. I dont like blur filters, and there is a thin grain layer, similar to what you get with some lightroom filters. Anyway, there are things that are suposed to remain sharp like the eyes, but i guess since they must do batch editing process this area also suffers the out of focus effect.
Im not against some little retouching here and there, color correction, etc, but i preffer to look to some real skin texture and detail, kinda makes you feel like its a real girl that could be standing in front of you, and not the magazine cover kind of retouch.
Hmm but if you say there's a noise on these pictures then how can they be soft at the same time? Personally I think that Metart sets with Jenya are fine and not over-edited. I would say they aren't even finished, I fixed some photos from another sets and my result is much better than theirs. Obviously it takes a lot of time to edit every single photo but hey, they're professionals, right? And about noise - it's an indicator of natural photo with high ISO I guess.
Im having some troubles to explain myself properly here mostly cause of my limited english. I can see there is a thin grain layer but i wouldnt know if its from the camera or part of a post procesing thing. Some people would intentionaly apply a thin grain layer into the pics since it sometimes soften the edges and transitions. Sometimes a bit of noise would appear in the attemp to get a balance between sharpening and soften the pic, like with the luminance control in lightroom or other programs. In the ISO case, why would someone use high ISO in a controled studio environment? You have your lights set up etc, so you would try to shoot with the minimum iso your camera allows i guess.
Thanks for the samples you uploaded, in the second one i can clearly see the effect. Well what i meant to say from the beggining is that i preffer a natural skin texture with all details untouched, unless its something that really need to be fix, like some blemishes and things like that, but im not a fan of skin softening mania that seems to be so popular in stuff like playboy or things like that. If there is a retouch i dont want to notice its there, cause sometimes its so over the top that you dont know if its skin or some lifeless rubber material.
In general i like met sets, but pics are not as detail rich as other sites i've seen, and i dont mean post processing sharpness, but lens sharpness left untouched. I would also see Jenya in different situations, not just plain posing with a colored background.
Anyway, thanks a lot for your explanations Desu, is there a way i can send you a PM or something?
Yea I absolutely agree with you, I don't like Playboy at all. They are waaaay overediting their photos. I get your point, I'm not a photographer so I can't really tell about lenses, but yeah, this "blur" or weak sharpness is probably because of lens/camera.
I think sets of Voronin were better than sets by Leonardo. They were maybe more natural and interesting. But anyway that's pretty rare for Jenya to take a shoot in front of simple background like this. Sets with pool, fountain, chair, etc were better obviously.
You can pm me on this forum (there's no pm? I don't know) or dollyphone@bk.ru
Excuse me, but wasn't W.A. a genius? Anyway Mr Voronin (Возраст: 36) is older than Mr. Mozart (35) ever got. And even though he started his career very early, his chances of repeating himself were somewhat limited due to his early death.
Ever counted the number of sets that Саша published for Metart? Must be well over 1000.
That's why you must change your photographer / director / producer whatever when you go out of breath and fresh ideas. Fresh look is a good thing and Voronin is obviously exhausted. So many sets but like 10 of them or even more are at the same place. I'm a type of guy that prefer quality over quantity and 79 sets aren't so good overall. I find non-Metart pictures with Jenya more interesting because of different techniques and new ideas about shooting her.
So what you're saying is that it was inevitable for Voronin? That I might agree with. What I don't agree with is the idea that it's inevitable for a person to run out of ideas. It's not a finite resource.
"Ever counted the number of sets that Саша published for Metart? Must be well over 1000."
Aye, and I think the problem arises there that it becomes like a conveyor belt.
Anyway, I like the new set, so I should stop my kvetching :)
There is a pm system but it seems you have to manually turn it on? Not sure. Anyway i wrote an email, thanks.
I guess you don't have to be a genious to put a beautiful girl in different situations, contexts, outfits, etc. Sets are somehow limited and have her just posing in a background or fixed location, but there is not a real variety in "themes". Dont know if i express myself well, but, i mean, there could be more of a story, or more thematic things, that could actually use her acting and facial expressions skills... maybe in some set the point of view could be like someone is spying on her without her noticing, or anything that creates some more tension or unexpected results as the photos go on, so you know theres some sort of story from beggining to end. I dont think sets shoud start (as many do) with her naked right away... im more into building the actions and tension step by step, and with more than 100 images per set, there is plenty to do something like that, more intriguin and that generates more expectation from the viewer. She could try out different outfits also, maybe some sporty Jenya? or some cliche ones like a schoolgirl or sexy nurse Jenya (im aware there is a set with some kind of nursy outfit)? Some photos with a new girl as company again maybe? Dunno, whatever that builds something as photos go on and that tells some kind of story would be really nice, vs just plain posing.
But... what do you guys think? What would you like to see Jenya doing? or dressed how (till all come off of course), or in what kind of situation, story,... what ideas do you have.
I have to agree about some new outfits. I'm not talking about something silly, I think Jenya will disagree to wear it and she will be right in this situation. Her body is beautiful but hey, we know everything about her after so many sets, maybe you should really try something new and I'm not talking about film directing and of course not about porno, but tell us a story, maybe something from your daily life, natural erotic not from studio. Well, I think it's too hard to make and they're limited on time and budget.
One needs only to revisit the beautiful photo sets of Eugenia shot by Alesha to see what Voronin or Leonardo (whatever he calls himself) is currently missing. Her hair, the costumes, the settings, the poses are all more interesting in those Alesha shoots.
We can dream while viewing Instinti that Jenya is that elusive high school or college librarian about whom we had many fantasies. With Chiamare we can see her giving her lover a private showing of the new lingerie he purchased for her on his recent trip...and so it goes. Storm, Intimita, Dedica or Mistero all offer us enough of a story to create our own fantasy. The situations, hair, costumes, etc., all compliment Jenya's wonderful personality to enable and invite us to our own fantasy. Like Desudesu22 says above - a story is told. There is enough there, in those photo shoots, for each of us to make the story of our own liking.
It seems to me, that creative story telling element is what is currently missing from Voronin's shoots. He is quite capable. Look what he did with Gypsy. We were whisked away to the magic of 1001 Arabian nights.Who among us wouldn't want a private belly dance or his fortune told by such an enchanting, playful creature?
Rehashing a bit what we did recently - abandoned building and unattended storage, fabrics, playing with lights as in (gelled&cookied) fresnels instead of the common large and distant softbox, fun with UV-colors/Oil&black sand, (That medieval themed shoot wouldn't be lighthearted enough), dancing to get the right amount of motion into the pictures for a change, nymph in the first rays of sunlight, multiple large mirrors (not only surreal, but giving each of us or own jenya ;) ), shredded clothing(+ some sooth/messed up makeup), agent as in catsuit/arms, going film noir(+gender flip). List goes on... Nothing really breaking the budget.
Add in the domestic themes & iconic periodes/works of art not explored yet and I could envision some rather productive weeks.
I, for one, think all her pictures are beautiful. It's Eugenia Diordiychuk, for god's sake! Personally I don't think it's possible to screw up a picture of her. Even the snapshots of her in street clothes at a club or the Playboy mansion look breathtaking. It will be a sad day when we don't have any new pictures of her.
Now that being said would I like to see more themes (i.e. horseback riding outfit, nurse, muddy, vamp, etc)? Of course, and looking at the Luciano Carvari set, she is willing to play act. But maybe she feels that just her nude body is enough, no matter what she is wearing or who is shooting her.
I fully agree with your first paragraph... (Nearly) all sets with Eugenia are fantastic, very erotic, beautiful.
But with respect to more themes, my fear is that they will distract from Eugnias body, or they may even look bad. There are sets (of other models) that show different themes (e.g. in nature, in costumes) but they look silly, stupid! Can you imagine Eugenia playing Santa Claus? What's the point in that? Mona Lisa is a beautiful picture, can you imagine that putting a cap on Mona Lisa's head (via photoshop) will make it more attractive?
Summary: Eugania is a top model, she has found her role, the themes she is fantastic in. It will difficult to improve this. Ok, one or two experiments would be interesting.
Themed sets look silly if you just the theme on top of your normal shooting. Take a look at some of the recent non-MET pictures, with a photographer familiar with the shifted sujet you get gorgeous results from a different perspective.
Being good at one style is one thing, but getting typecast is something one should only do if one lacks the talent for other endeavors.
Hmmm. Maybe July 10
You're always a day early for some reason ;)
Looks like a very recent set (7200 pixels)
Yeah, definitely from a new batch of photos. The first 7200 from Sasha appear in November of last year, and I think these could be as recent as May or even June this year.
Her breasts surprisingly aren't looking that good on this poster. I'd say they're looking kinda weird to be honest. Smaller and shape is different.
They look fine. It's probably just the angle of the shot and/or the fact they've been photochopped i.e. to remove the piercings.
I hope that one day she finds a new photographer... 'cause it is always the same "positions" since a few years now.
Anyway, that set is very fine!
Well, this is a very nice set... And I don't think at all that her positions get boring: I just love them :-)
This is a nice set, i have to partially agree with charade though that sets tend to be a bit boring, i wish they would put Jenya in more situations or context other than studio environment, some different outfits, a bit of role play, funny situations, a nice landscape, etc. So many ideas you can come with if you have a model like that, but they still do some sets just using a solid color background.
The areola looks a bit different here compared to other sets, but breasts form is nice as usual.
And wow, we are getting near to 1gb sets now, but even when pictures are big in size i can notice they are not really sharp, and that bothers me a little. Theres a lof of soft focusing going on, at least in my eyes. Also there is a bit of noise in the pictures. Compared to some hegre sets for example that are razor sharp this is a bit soft, and i wish that wasnt the case so we can really appreciate Jenya's skin details.
What do you think guys?
Pd. excuse me for my poor english... hope the ideas are still understandable.
I've made a simple but sexy wallpaper. And some different versions including soft and b/w.
The answer is: photoshopped more or less. All of them, Hegre, Metart, Femjoy, etc use professional cameras, lights and studios. The only difference is post production and color/noise correction in photoshop. Personally I would like to see photos as is without noise reduction and blur. "Glamour" editing is ruining natural beauty.
Thanks for the nice wallpapers Desudesu22.
Im sure they all use nice cameras and lenses, and that pictures maybe start sharp, but as you say they ruin them with the "glamour" retouching. I dont like blur filters, and there is a thin grain layer, similar to what you get with some lightroom filters. Anyway, there are things that are suposed to remain sharp like the eyes, but i guess since they must do batch editing process this area also suffers the out of focus effect.
Im not against some little retouching here and there, color correction, etc, but i preffer to look to some real skin texture and detail, kinda makes you feel like its a real girl that could be standing in front of you, and not the magazine cover kind of retouch.
Hmm but if you say there's a noise on these pictures then how can they be soft at the same time?
Personally I think that Metart sets with Jenya are fine and not over-edited. I would say they aren't even finished, I fixed some photos from another sets and my result is much better than theirs. Obviously it takes a lot of time to edit every single photo but hey, they're professionals, right? And about noise - it's an indicator of natural photo with high ISO I guess.
Anyway about blur, I used a noise reduction filter on one of those pictures, you can compare:
http://www.mediafire.com/?a2v3b6zmlwh7so4
http://www.mediafire.com/?xdc23js3g0y8jd3
Im having some troubles to explain myself properly here mostly cause of my limited english.
I can see there is a thin grain layer but i wouldnt know if its from the camera or part of a post procesing thing.
Some people would intentionaly apply a thin grain layer into the pics since it sometimes soften the edges and transitions. Sometimes a bit of noise would appear in the attemp to get a balance between sharpening and soften the pic, like with the luminance control in lightroom or other programs.
In the ISO case, why would someone use high ISO in a controled studio environment? You have your lights set up etc, so you would try to shoot with the minimum iso your camera allows i guess.
Thanks for the samples you uploaded, in the second one i can clearly see the effect.
Well what i meant to say from the beggining is that i preffer a natural skin texture with all details untouched, unless its something that really need to be fix, like some blemishes and things like that, but im not a fan of skin softening mania that seems to be so popular in stuff like playboy or things like that. If there is a retouch i dont want to notice its there, cause sometimes its so over the top that you dont know if its skin or some lifeless rubber material.
In general i like met sets, but pics are not as detail rich as other sites i've seen, and i dont mean post processing sharpness, but lens sharpness left untouched.
I would also see Jenya in different situations, not just plain posing with a colored background.
Anyway, thanks a lot for your explanations Desu, is there a way i can send you a PM or something?
Yea I absolutely agree with you, I don't like Playboy at all. They are waaaay overediting their photos.
I get your point, I'm not a photographer so I can't really tell about lenses, but yeah, this "blur" or weak sharpness is probably because of lens/camera.
I think sets of Voronin were better than sets by Leonardo. They were maybe more natural and interesting.
But anyway that's pretty rare for Jenya to take a shoot in front of simple background like this. Sets with pool, fountain, chair, etc were better obviously.
You can pm me on this forum (there's no pm? I don't know) or dollyphone@bk.ru
"I think sets of Voronin were better than sets by Leonardo"
Хахаха (=Hahaha). Voronin = Leonardo. They are 1 person.
To me the more natural, the better. Jenya would be better off without all these "adjustments".
Well I suspected this. Don't know what's the point of name changing but whatever.
He ran out of ideas then, her last sets except pool and fountain sets were extremely boring for me.
I agree, he kind of ran out of ideas. After 79 published sets and almost 12.000 pictures, it's inevitable.
Did Mozart run out of ideas after K. 79?
Excuse me, but wasn't W.A. a genius? Anyway Mr Voronin (Возраст: 36) is older than Mr. Mozart (35) ever got. And even though he started his career very early, his chances of repeating himself were somewhat limited due to his early death.
Ever counted the number of sets that Саша published for Metart? Must be well over 1000.
That's why you must change your photographer / director / producer whatever when you go out of breath and fresh ideas. Fresh look is a good thing and Voronin is obviously exhausted. So many sets but like 10 of them or even more are at the same place.
I'm a type of guy that prefer quality over quantity and 79 sets aren't so good overall.
I find non-Metart pictures with Jenya more interesting because of different techniques and new ideas about shooting her.
So what you're saying is that it was inevitable for Voronin? That I might agree with. What I don't agree with is the idea that it's inevitable for a person to run out of ideas. It's not a finite resource.
"Ever counted the number of sets that Саша published for Metart? Must be well over 1000."
Aye, and I think the problem arises there that it becomes like a conveyor belt.
Anyway, I like the new set, so I should stop my kvetching :)
There is a pm system but it seems you have to manually turn it on? Not sure.
Anyway i wrote an email, thanks.
I guess you don't have to be a genious to put a beautiful girl in different situations, contexts, outfits, etc. Sets are somehow limited and have her just posing in a background or fixed location, but there is not a real variety in "themes". Dont know if i express myself well, but, i mean, there could be more of a story, or more thematic things, that could actually use her acting and facial expressions skills... maybe in some set the point of view could be like someone is spying on her without her noticing, or anything that creates some more tension or unexpected results as the photos go on, so you know theres some sort of story from beggining to end. I dont think sets shoud start (as many do) with her naked right away... im more into building the actions and tension step by step, and with more than 100 images per set, there is plenty to do something like that, more intriguin and that generates more expectation from the viewer. She could try out different outfits also, maybe some sporty Jenya? or some cliche ones like a schoolgirl or sexy nurse Jenya (im aware there is a set with some kind of nursy outfit)? Some photos with a new girl as company again maybe? Dunno, whatever that builds something as photos go on and that tells some kind of story would be really nice, vs just plain posing.
But... what do you guys think? What would you like to see Jenya doing? or dressed how (till all come off of course), or in what kind of situation, story,... what ideas do you have.
I have to agree about some new outfits. I'm not talking about something silly, I think Jenya will disagree to wear it and she will be right in this situation. Her body is beautiful but hey, we know everything about her after so many sets, maybe you should really try something new and I'm not talking about film directing and of course not about porno, but tell us a story, maybe something from your daily life, natural erotic not from studio.
Well, I think it's too hard to make and they're limited on time and budget.
One needs only to revisit the beautiful photo sets of Eugenia shot by Alesha to see what Voronin or Leonardo (whatever he calls himself) is currently missing. Her hair, the costumes, the settings, the poses are all more interesting in those Alesha shoots.
We can dream while viewing Instinti that Jenya is that elusive high school or college librarian about whom we had many fantasies. With Chiamare we can see her giving her lover a private showing of the new lingerie he purchased for her on his recent trip...and so it goes. Storm, Intimita, Dedica or Mistero all offer us enough of a story to create our own fantasy. The situations, hair, costumes, etc., all compliment Jenya's wonderful personality to enable and invite us to our own fantasy. Like Desudesu22 says above - a story is told. There is enough there, in those photo shoots, for each of us to make the story of our own liking.
It seems to me, that creative story telling element is what is currently missing from Voronin's shoots. He is quite capable. Look what he did with Gypsy. We were whisked away to the magic of 1001 Arabian nights.Who among us wouldn't want a private belly dance or his fortune told by such an enchanting, playful creature?
Rehashing a bit what we did recently - abandoned building and unattended storage, fabrics, playing with lights as in (gelled&cookied) fresnels instead of the common large and distant softbox, fun with UV-colors/Oil&black sand, (That medieval themed shoot wouldn't be lighthearted enough), dancing to get the right amount of motion into the pictures for a change, nymph in the first rays of sunlight, multiple large mirrors (not only surreal, but giving each of us or own jenya ;) ), shredded clothing(+ some sooth/messed up makeup), agent as in catsuit/arms, going film noir(+gender flip). List goes on... Nothing really breaking the budget.
More than always, just perfect!!!
Wonderful set. Zhenya looks warmer and kinder, and she moves her body delightfully.
p.s. thank you reflective floor ;)
Diminez:
http://www.eugeniadiordiychuk.com/image-galleries/jenya-d-dominez-eugeni...
Enjoy ;)
I, for one, think all her pictures are beautiful. It's Eugenia Diordiychuk, for god's sake! Personally I don't think it's possible to screw up a picture of her. Even the snapshots of her in street clothes at a club or the Playboy mansion look breathtaking. It will be a sad day when we don't have any new pictures of her.
Now that being said would I like to see more themes (i.e. horseback riding outfit, nurse, muddy, vamp, etc)? Of course, and looking at the Luciano Carvari set, she is willing to play act. But maybe she feels that just her nude body is enough, no matter what she is wearing or who is shooting her.
I fully agree with your first paragraph... (Nearly) all sets with Eugenia are fantastic, very erotic, beautiful.
But with respect to more themes, my fear is that they will distract from Eugnias body, or they may even look bad. There are sets (of other models) that show different themes (e.g. in nature, in costumes) but they look silly, stupid! Can you imagine Eugenia playing Santa Claus? What's the point in that? Mona Lisa is a beautiful picture, can you imagine that putting a cap on Mona Lisa's head (via photoshop) will make it more attractive?
Summary: Eugania is a top model, she has found her role, the themes she is fantastic in. It will difficult to improve this. Ok, one or two experiments would be interesting.
Themed sets look silly if you just the theme on top of your normal shooting. Take a look at some of the recent non-MET pictures, with a photographer familiar with the shifted sujet you get gorgeous results from a different perspective.
Some other themes: climbing high mountains/rocks, mining in deep dark coal mine, tiling, mowing, digging, crocheting in desert storm... :D 8>